Jean-Claude,

I wasn’t thinking of diamond (or platinum) characterising grey lit, rather that if we’re interested in weighing the popularity/use of different funding models, adding the millions of items of grey literature published annually to the mix would mean that diamond (or platinum) is probably the most common form of publication financing.

Toby

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On 11 Sep 2024, at 19:20, Jean-Claude Guédon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 In the present system, the costs of publishing, and more (profits, etc) - i.e. the prices of subscriptions or APCs - are almost entirely covered by institutions (libraries - as conduits or not -, some funding agencies for APCs). So, the financing of publishing is not a good discriminating element to characterize grey literature specifically. The only difference is that grey literature, more often than not, is published directly by an "institution or other" (with perhaps the help of a printer, or web designer), while scholarly journals and books, etc., are published outside the institutions that pay for access of some sort to them (buying or licensing).

Jean-Claude Guédon

Le 2024-09-11 à 12:52, Toby Green a écrit :
[log in to unmask]"> This discussion got me thinking. If we call publications where the cost of publishing is ‘met entirely by an institution or other’, diamond (or platinum), does this make grey literature diamond (or platinum)?

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On 10 Sep 2024, at 17:36, Henry Spilberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


At BMJ Group we historically used platinum and diamond interchangeably, but in recent years diamond has become standard to describe OA journals within our portfolio whose costs are met entirely by an institution or other.

Thank you Danny for linking to your piece.

Henry Spilberg

Senior Publisher, BMJ Group




On Tue, 10 Sept 2024 at 15:40, Jean-Claude Guédon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I did enjoy. A lot! Thank you. After my battle with "dark money" being thrown around wantonly, this was really nice to read. Thank you again.

Incidentally, diamond was also name "platinum" in the past. Does anyone have more information about this?

Jean-Claude

Le 2024-09-09 à 18:58, Danny Kingsley a écrit :
Hi all,

This is a post I wrote post-FORCE11 reflecting the many discussions we had at the event about the use and mis-use of words in the open space.


Enjoy!

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